Then there is another thing. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." He just weakly said, "Oh okay, whatever you want. Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. This was history now. Does the devil have power to make us sick? he put the Gibeonites to death. There is no record in the Bible of Saul killing Gibeonites. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. Things were going wrong. So he did to them, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, so that they did not kill them. They knew all the things God had stipulated about what they were to do when Israel was going to come into the land. In addition, after this was the rebellion of Sheba, in which there were all kinds of disruptions until Sheba was killed. My reading between the lines concludes that King David was at a spiritual low point at this time. We would like to make a covenant with you.". WebSaul kills the gentile Gibeonites (2 Sam 21) & banishes mediums in preparation for Tabernacle being moved from Nob to Gibeon. The time had passed. It would be the equivalent of an event somewhere between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. Vote Up Their representatives were not up front with the Israeli leaders. Gibeon was situated very close to Gibeah the home town of Sauls family. Had him over to the palace a few times." God's correction may come a Because of their peace treaty and their oath with the Gibeonites, which included these people. Verse 1 did say that it was "Saul and his bloodthirsty house" who had massacred the Gibeonites. If you read 2Samuel 21 carefully, it seems possible that Saul and his house may have been trying to get the Gibeonites territory. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. This was obviously later in his life and reign. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. There were no cell phones. The problem was that God had not told Saul to do this, God had told Joshua to do that. Finally, someone says to David, "Hey, did you know that Rizpah has been out on a rock for six months, sitting there day after day, protecting the corpses from birds and such, because the Gibeonites won't let her take them down and bury them? For the Gibeonites, their wily guile and deception gained them survival and nothing more. There are things like destruction for their sin, and the family takes that long to recover from that destruction. lorraine goode. To all appearances, it seems that they got away with it. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. Clarify Based on this principle, I think we can be confident that justice was carried out in this very nasty incident, even though we are not told all the details of what happened. So David asked the Lord for help, and the Lord answered, Saul and his family are guilty of murder, because he had the Gibeonites killed. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." They agree to the death of seven of Saul's descendants. It wouldnt be surprising if these people had become worshippers of God, from their exposure to the tabernacle and teaching. It causes a problem in the way that the next generation is formed. It is not genetic. Therefore, your kingdom is taken away and given to another. It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. The children of Israel gathered and went across the Jordan River, and set up camp at Gilgal. This cultural trait makes it difficult for many people to identify with Jesus Christ. I want you to understand where Barry was coming from in writing the note. And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. Their deceit, Israel's lack of vigilance and Saul's deep delusion caused God's people centuries of grief and embarrassment. How long was the average lifespan at the time? David asked. and for his bloody house. Eisenhower was still in office. Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with God is not bloodthirsty, but He had told them what to do. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. By this time, Moses had died and was buried. WebAnd the Lord answered, Saul and his family of murderers are the reason for the famine, because he killed the Gibeonites. 2 (The Gibeonites were not Israelites. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. Gibeon is only a few miles mostly north of Jerusalem. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. The Gibeonites actually lived only a few miles from Jericho, the Twelve Tribes' designated entry point to Palestine. Of course, a part of it is being able to look at ourselves and see how dirty, nasty, and rotten we are, and saying, "There is no way that anybody could live in this world without sin; even God's beloved Son.". If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating The cities of refuge were designed (among other things) to stop and prevent these feuds from happening. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. If we would go through Luke 21:7-12, we would see that Jesus gave His disciples indications of what would happen if the time of the end began. But what actually did Saul do to the Gibeonites? At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. It would have been the answer. II Samuel 21:1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. A little further down, we read: II Samuel 21:2 . Why were two of Saul's sons and five of Saul's grandsons killed for a crime they didn't commit? The "Great Debate" between Nixon and Kennedy had not occurred yet. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation" Psalm 24:4-5. It is very clear, and very simplejust two little verses. Jonathan and Saul led the There was no negotiation; there was no calling them on anything. So Joshua made peace with them, and made a covenant with them to let them live; and the rulers of the congregation swore to them. This is pretty clear. It springs out when you are not ready. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. David then goes to Gibeonites and asked to make amends. By deluding himself that he could solve any problem; by presuming that the end justifies the means; by deliberately countermanding clear and specific orders from the Most High God; Saul not only failed to remove an evil people from the land, he also guaranteed the ultimate destruction of his own family. They haven't been put in Kish's sepulcher yet. Davids choice of victims reflects at least the covenant between him and Jonathan, if not also the one between him They are two separate things. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Israel was totally swindled and bamboozled. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. Justice seems to have been served. It is for Saul. It did not come the next week, or the next month, or the month after that, all through the summer and into the fall holy days. God is just. I don't know a great deal about this particular segment of those biblical people called the Hittites. God spared them as a people, but His nation condemned them to endless servitude. Joshua kept his word to the Gibeonites even when it was inconvenient. Saul killed a lot of people. Back to the Gibeonitesmost people probably did not remember it. The latter believed that Saul's desire was to destroy them utterly. But it does not say so here in so many words. Where have you been, David? For unknown reasons, Joshua and the elders of Israel quickly bit on this proposal. There is no want to those who fear Him. ", Or even after two years. 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. That is how we overcome the dearth of the truth and the dearth of righteousness in our day. David didnt get the throne until Saul and Jonathon were both dead. David was anointed king many years before he took the throne. He had Saul tryin What should we get out of this? All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. But so did David. Saul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. They were a group of Amorites. It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. He had a body of law that he could have referred back to and come up with a solution. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. We are talking about the possibility of only two of the seven even remotely having any guilt in this matter whatsoever. There is less bloodshed, and there will not be much opportunity like in Gentile nations for these blood feuds to last for years and generations. Joshua 9:22-24 Then Joshua called for them, and he spoke to them, saying, "Why have you deceived us, saying, 'We are very far from you,' when you dwell near us? Why is it just now that you are waking up to this? So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". With all the recent rebellions, he was probably worried that his alliances were going to fail, because he may have appeared to weaken. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. WebMany centuries later (the period from the exodus of Israel to the reign of Saul is generally considered to be about 400 years), Saul came to the throne in Israel. That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. A good answer provides new insight and perspective. David may have begun to think about this now, "What is going on here? The Gibeonites take the young men and essentially lynch them, leaving the bodies of Sauls sons and grandsons to rot, exposed and humiliated in the presence of God at a local shrine. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. We have a very simple biblical principle here: God is just. They were going to come in there and just exterminate. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. I do not know if that was the case, but he had just gone through Absalom's rebellion, and Sheba's rebellion, and maybe he allowed that to cross his mind too. I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." So the famine continued for another half a year. Wherever he turned, he harassed them. After 7-10 years of war, David has solidified his empire Mar 2, 2022. He wanted to go do something else. He just let them walk all over him. Even so, maybe there were even worse problems, perhaps, and David was blind to them for three years. (Mark 6:20). He resolved properlynot without a lot of death, with 70,000 dead in that plague, but at least he had the repentant attitude by the time it was over. But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid, and struck the Philistine and killed him. Berean Literal Bible Acts 13:21. The Gibeonites were a very shrewd bunch of people. He enslaved them all, and made them wood cutters and menial laborers at the Tabernacle. II Samuel 21:10-11 Now Rizpah the daughter of Aiah took sackcloth and spread it for herself on the rock, from the beginning of harvest until the late rains poured on them from heaven. Then, I am sure, he started to think about other things that were happening, and he started to make some reforms in himself. He was distracted. In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. They are going to cause problems. Share Instead, David brings back twice as many. (Now the Gibeonites were not Israelites, but a remnant of the Amorites. They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. This cultural thing about wanting our heroes flawed is so deeply ingrained in us that we cannot imagine anyone going through life without sin. You had to go up quite a bit. There is more space given to David's flaws than anyone else in the whole Bible. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a They wanted the God of Israel to take it in the eye. And the king said, "I will give them.". WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. God sees behind the scenes. 0 responses WebSaul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. This does not make any sense. Vote Up What might he have done? CONFLICT OF THE AGES ARTICLES And King David rolled over and let this happen. And the Lord said, "There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. Now if the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as He swore to your fathers, and gives you the land which He promised to give to your fathers, and if you keep all these commandments and do them, which I command you today, to love the LORD your God and to walk always in His ways, then you shall add three more cities for yourself besides these three, lest innocent blood be shed in the midst of your land which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and thus guilt of bloodshed be upon you. And, that was that. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. God did not necessarily overlook all their sins, but He certainly forgave them. It only says that God heeded the prayer of the land. Why does the Bible say David spared Mephibosheth then offered him to the Gibeonites to be killed? THE BATTLES OF THE LORD Report. What did David do to end the famine caused by Saul breaking a treaty with the Gibeonites? Back in I Samuel 15, Saul was told by God through Samuel to go up against the Amalekites, and to destroy everything in sight, do not spare anything; exterminate them. The rest of the Canaanites resented the defection of the Hivites which so greatly weakened the forces for defense, and, headed by Adoni-zedek of Jerusalem, they assembled to wreak vengeance on Gibeon. A person dies for his own sins, not those committed by someone else, whether father, son, or black sheep uncle. Instead of warfare and bloodshed, their weapons were guile and deceit. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. There are so many things I have got to do.". Jew or gentile? All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. One of the things He specifically mentions is famine, which happens to be the third sealphysical famine, but we remember from Amos that there is a spiritual famine as well. WebVetus Testamentum 24:1 (January 1974):1-7.] Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. The Gibeonites were not Israelites, but the remnant of the Amorites, which Saul pursued from within Israel. It provides the cities of refuge where he could go serve a type of prison sentenceif it was an accidental murderuntil the high priest died. In the economy of God's providence, however, such tiny events often matter much. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. Asked August 31 2013 These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. EVIL'S ULTIMATE END. ", If you are on your spiritual game, and famine is occurring in your land, do you wait three years until thousands may have died? He went after a people that God did not want exterminated anymore. A lot can happen in two years. Share 1. And if He sinned, then He could not be our Savior. So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal [Merabsee margin of most Bibles] the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. He does not live long past the end of II Samuel. The Bible doesnt really say. This is taken from the book Antiquities of the Jews, pg. 7: AFTER this, when the country was greatly afflicted with a The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. There were no conditions. In addition, his own soldiers had to tell him, "David, you just don't have it anymore. The Israelites had promised not to 0 responses Saul's bones are still in Jabesh-Gilead. I think that this was a test from God, and David failed spectacularly, except in keeping his promise to Jonathan. Joshua 9:25-27 "And now, here we are, in your hands; do with us as it seems good and right to do to us." What have they done? Perhaps trickery will be better than war for us.". The Gibeonites decided on a different strategy. It comes as a snare, Christ says, on everybody. "Now therefore, you are cursed, and none of you shall be freed from being slaveswoodcutters and water carriers for the house of my God." This is interesting. But Joshua had the final decision. But that conclusion is a bit too sanguine once you begin to look into that which is not said, or what is said elsewhere. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. One other thing: Samuel said that God is not going to go back on His word. Fifty years ago was 1957. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". And they took old sacks on their donkeys, old wineskins torn and mended, old and patched sandals on their feet, and old garments on themselves; and all the bread of their provision was dry and moldy. THE STORY OF THE GIBEONITES - HERALDS OF HOLOCAUST There is nothing to give you any indication that God was involved in anything except the faminetrying to teach David a lesson. David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. We can't withstand them. In other words, we want them to be just like us. He committed colossal sins that whole nations would be held in contempt for. And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? And that is why God heeded the prayer of the land. And when Saul saw any strong man or any valiant man, he took him for himself. Why so? They were the five sons of Merab, Saul's daughter. However, there was not. This is in the second commandment. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." He understood it. They didn't present themselves in a truthful light saying that they were neighbors who respected Israel's strength and godly advantage and were suing for peace. He realized how often, and how far, he strayed from God's way of life. Is there something I'm missing? Report, August 29 2022 There is not much wiggle room in all this. I haven't been keeping up on things. Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. What I am trying to show you by going through these different places is that there is plenty of law that King David could have looked back on. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. You see, famine on the scale like thisthree yearsis a sign from God that things were not copacetic in the land. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. He could have done whatever he wanted. The Israelites had been dealing with the Gibeonites, who were Hivitesand as it says here, they were a part of the Amorite peoplesince the first days in the land under Joshua. WebWhen Sauls agents came up, she pretended that David was ill and placed a household idol and a net of goats hair in his bed, as if her husband were still lying there (vv. 2Samuel 21:1, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death.. We cannot let them linger around. We are starting to get some of the atmosphere around this event now. We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. WebThe consequences of Israels covenant with the Gibeonites were not short-term. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the L ORD. That would be a town in Benjamin just north of Jerusalem. 0 responses And they sent them to Joshua at Gilgal. He could have done several things differently, perhaps giving the Gibeonites their freedom as a way to repay them. Perhaps those first two, Armoni, and Mephibosheth were old enough to have participated in the event. When God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. During the time of the judges, the Israelites had repeatedly turned away, lea However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". Ezekiel 18:19-20 Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." That is basically how it was. That is the bottom line. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. Then David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of Jonathan his son, from the men of Jabesh Gilead who had stolen them from the street of Beth Shan, where the Philistines had hung them up, after the Philistines had struck down Saul in Gilboa. Israel plagued by allowing the deception That the famine continued indicates God displeasure with David's decision and inner motives. King David was compelled to hand over his own people to the power of Israel's ongoing enemies. Who was the father of Mephibosheth? ESV - He became jealous and he went wacko, basically. Where are they from? It does not seem to me that during this time of the three years of famine David was emulating the attitude that he wrote about in Psalm 34. Also, they were hanged on the hill before the Lord. And it would have been done quickly and easily. We do not know when it happened. He just let the natural cycles take their course. You do not know. Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. If we think that we have it all figured out, I am sorry, we do not. If, in the event the Israelis ever came their way, they would be servants to the people of Israel. But, he did not. It cut us off from God. It says a bit later that somebody told him what that woman was doing out there protecting the bodies of the slain men of Saul's house for the past six months and it was as though he said, "Oh really? So they thought, "Hmm. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. As Christians living amidst spiritual famine, we dare not compromise with the culture around us. 21:1-11 ). Except for verse 21, there is very little mention of God in the whole episode. God has torn the kingdom from you. He was the king. We have all followed in the same way of life as our first parents Adam and Eve. Such a shame to destroy it all! 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